Chiàcchiera:Rubén Serrano

I call for a deletion of this article. It is part of a selfpromoting spamming of more than 40 editions of wikipedia. Alle articles (except those on en: and es:) are created by anonymoums/unregistred first-edit-users, they have the same brief text.

Please also note that all his books are in spanish, and neither of them have been translated to your language. Thus he is not very relevant to readers of your laguage. I who write this is admin at no:wp as no:bruker:Orland. With greetings; --Orland 05:50, 29 Maj 2008 (UTC)

My name is Juan Carlos García and I'm es:usuario:selvinderan in es:wp. I am the author of this article. It's not selfpromoting spamming.

This article and others have been created to extend and to improve Wikipedia.

More information in Discusión Rubén Serrano es:wp

See en:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rubén Serrano; and pl:Wikipedia:SDU/Rubén Serrano; and fr:Wikipédia:Pages protégées à la création/Juin 2008; and de:Wikipedia:Löschkandidaten/2. Juni 2008#Rubén Serrano. --Orland 05:46, 3 Giù 2008 (UTC)

Hmmmm ....

How can we be sure this is REALLY self promotion? Do you have actual proof? And: why should some author be irrelevant just because no works have been translated into Neapolitan? This would mean that authors like Shakespeare etc. are irrelevant as well. Sorry, I want proof that this is self promotion. Until I don't have proof that it is, this article remains. --Sabine 08:59, 5 Giù 2008 (UTC)

I asked for clarification here: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario_Discusi%C3%B3n:Selvinderan#Serrano - remember there are people who are fans of an author and who simply want to create an article. Time ago there were requests to create pages about cities in many languages, even if very small and eventually irrelevant cities. We created these articles. So where's the actual difference among a fan of a city and a fan of an author? I want clarification, but I want to hear both sides. Thank you! --Sabine 09:09, 5 Giù 2008 (UTC)

Proof as in 102% sure is not possible; but all the evidence colleted at en:Talk:Rubén Serrano is more than enough for me. Greetings. --Orland 09:55, 5 Giù 2008 (UTC)

I have added references that demonstrate the validity of the article.--80.32.164.112 11:16, 5 Giù 2008 (UTC)

These «references» are from local webpages in mr Serranos own neighbourhood. Others wikieditions has already evaluated them, and deemed them as «local Madrid community websites, not notable» (See en:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rubén Serrano). Best wishes. Orland 12:24, 5 Giù 2008 (UTC)

I've now followed the discussion since the beginning. I believe that Orland's claims are true, HOWEVER this article doesn't harm our Wikipedia. There's no offense, no proven false contents, therefore I will keep this article. BUT if the article won't be expanded in - let's say - a half year's time, I'll propose a deletion for lack of information. --Andreas 13:02, 5 Giù 2008 (UTC) P. S.: I removed the deletion template from the page.

OK, that's fair enough for me, but I don't think there will be any notabel expansion. Have a nice day, it is a beautiful sunny day in my part of the world, and I hope so for you too. Best wishes, --Orland 14:18, 5 Giù 2008 (UTC)

Thank you guys :-) I believe there is always a way to find what's ok and not - see: I saw pages deleted which were 100% ok since they were about newspapers registered following Italian law, IGT wines etc. So I am really very cautious in deleting immediately. We are not able to know everything, we are human beings and as such we can be wrong. --Sabine 09:10, 6 Giù 2008 (UTC)

es:usuario:selvinderan is blocked in spanish wikipedia. Af, an, AR, ast, ay, bat-smg, be-x-old, bg, ca, cs, cy, da, de, eml, en, eo, es, eu, fi, fo,fr, ga, gl, hr, hu, ie, ILO, io, it, lad, mi, nl, no, pl, pt, ru, scn, simple, sk, sq, sv, uk, vi, zh are deleted by now. That is more than 40; now only 18 remain. --Orland 20:14, 19 Giù 2008 (UTC)